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	<title>Comments on: 5D mkII and 7D comparison</title>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a 5d user of 4 years and at the cusp of upgrading.  At first I thought the MKII was the only camera worth upgrading to and then the 7d hit the shelves.  A mate of mine has one and he comes directly from a film based Leica.  His opinion is that the 7d with the best EFS lenses produce stunning images equal to what he has been used to with film.  I have sweated buckets trying to make up my mind which one to go for and I think the MKII is winning the race.  Why?  Full frame delivers better image quality and anyone in denial over that is deluding themselves. Crop sensor files need to be enlarged to almost twice that of FF files to achieve the same print size for a start, and then there is the question of noise to consider.  In fairness to both formats it is impossible to get a scientific comparison between the two cameras.  They are both different.  Both have their pros and cons and both have their uses for different genres.  If you need a camera for sports, wildlife, or photo journalism, then the 7d is probably as good as it gets at the moment.  If you want a camera to do fine art, or landscape photography then the 5dMKII is the best in its price range.

I&#039;m still stuck up a gum tree over which one I will purchase, but both are worthy of anyone&#039;s attention that&#039;s for sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a 5d user of 4 years and at the cusp of upgrading.  At first I thought the MKII was the only camera worth upgrading to and then the 7d hit the shelves.  A mate of mine has one and he comes directly from a film based Leica.  His opinion is that the 7d with the best EFS lenses produce stunning images equal to what he has been used to with film.  I have sweated buckets trying to make up my mind which one to go for and I think the MKII is winning the race.  Why?  Full frame delivers better image quality and anyone in denial over that is deluding themselves. Crop sensor files need to be enlarged to almost twice that of FF files to achieve the same print size for a start, and then there is the question of noise to consider.  In fairness to both formats it is impossible to get a scientific comparison between the two cameras.  They are both different.  Both have their pros and cons and both have their uses for different genres.  If you need a camera for sports, wildlife, or photo journalism, then the 7d is probably as good as it gets at the moment.  If you want a camera to do fine art, or landscape photography then the 5dMKII is the best in its price range.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still stuck up a gum tree over which one I will purchase, but both are worthy of anyone&#8217;s attention that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Valente</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel Valente</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cool test. I agree the 7d does look better. Lots of vignetting on the 5d Mk II. What lens was used?  I had a 5d Mk II but returned it because it was corrupting raw files shot in a burst. I replaced it with the 7d. The 7d + 85mm f/1.8 is a low-light champ! I&#039;ve been really happy with ISO 2000 and lower and ISO 3200 is totally useable. The 5d Mk II I had also banded at base ISO, which the 7d doesn&#039;t had. 

In my perfect world, the 7d would have used the 1.3 x 10 megapixel sensor from the 1d Mk III + Dual Digic 4s. Wow that would be a sweet camera... 

Anyways I did some equally non-scientific but informative test on the 5d Mk II and came up with the same result:
http://danielvalentephotography.com/2010/03/17/canon-5d-mk-ii-noise-in-low-iso-images/

And btw these aren&#039;t inaccurate when I am shooting something I want to be able to set my ISO, shutter, AWB and aperture and take a shot. I&#039;m not going to measure everything, mess around with lighting changes minute by minute etc. I want to know how a camera is going to before in the moment that I need to take the picture...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cool test. I agree the 7d does look better. Lots of vignetting on the 5d Mk II. What lens was used?  I had a 5d Mk II but returned it because it was corrupting raw files shot in a burst. I replaced it with the 7d. The 7d + 85mm f/1.8 is a low-light champ! I&#8217;ve been really happy with ISO 2000 and lower and ISO 3200 is totally useable. The 5d Mk II I had also banded at base ISO, which the 7d doesn&#8217;t had. </p>
<p>In my perfect world, the 7d would have used the 1.3 x 10 megapixel sensor from the 1d Mk III + Dual Digic 4s. Wow that would be a sweet camera&#8230; </p>
<p>Anyways I did some equally non-scientific but informative test on the 5d Mk II and came up with the same result:<br />
<a href="http://danielvalentephotography.com/2010/03/17/canon-5d-mk-ii-noise-in-low-iso-images/" rel="nofollow">http://danielvalentephotography.com/2010/03/17/canon-5d-mk-ii-noise-in-low-iso-images/</a></p>
<p>And btw these aren&#8217;t inaccurate when I am shooting something I want to be able to set my ISO, shutter, AWB and aperture and take a shot. I&#8217;m not going to measure everything, mess around with lighting changes minute by minute etc. I want to know how a camera is going to before in the moment that I need to take the picture&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Noah ( San Francisco Wedding Photographer )</title>
		<link>http://fresnophotoblog.com/2009/10/16/5d-mkii-and-7d-comparison/comment-page-1/#comment-1059</link>
		<dc:creator>Noah ( San Francisco Wedding Photographer )</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just got a 7D, so I&#039;ll be trying this combo out too. Nice to see that it has such good results at high ISO. I wasn&#039;t expecting performance that good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just got a 7D, so I&#8217;ll be trying this combo out too. Nice to see that it has such good results at high ISO. I wasn&#8217;t expecting performance that good.</p>
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		<title>By: Zlatko</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zlatko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks very much for posting this.  I appreciate the simple test.  The differences are interesting, as are the similarities.  I use the 5DII and it appears from this that the 7D is also a very capable high ISO camera.  By the way, comparing them at f/16 wouldn&#039;t be useful to me as I never shoot at f/16.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much for posting this.  I appreciate the simple test.  The differences are interesting, as are the similarities.  I use the 5DII and it appears from this that the 7D is also a very capable high ISO camera.  By the way, comparing them at f/16 wouldn&#8217;t be useful to me as I never shoot at f/16.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig Kohlruss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig Kohlruss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi William,

Thanks for adding your comment to my blog. This was never meant as a scientific trial of the two cameras but rather a simple test for people to use when considering which one they might like to look into further. I thought the 7D got a bum rap early on with its 1.6 crop sensor and those who insisted the quality of the image couldn&#039;t be as good as the 5dmkII. I think this test shows it&#039;s not all that bad. It might even be slightly better. But this test DOES NOT show that the 5dmkII is an inferior camera in my opinion. It just shows that the 7D isn&#039;t either. I have both cameras and need both for different purposes. Using my 50mm f/1.4 for example would give me a much different image with the 7D than it does the 5DmkII. For me this test shows that I can use the 7D in low light with a tighter frame and a higher fps and not worry about the results. It&#039;s not meant to discount the quality of the 5DmkII because that will still be my main portrait camera.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi William,</p>
<p>Thanks for adding your comment to my blog. This was never meant as a scientific trial of the two cameras but rather a simple test for people to use when considering which one they might like to look into further. I thought the 7D got a bum rap early on with its 1.6 crop sensor and those who insisted the quality of the image couldn&#8217;t be as good as the 5dmkII. I think this test shows it&#8217;s not all that bad. It might even be slightly better. But this test DOES NOT show that the 5dmkII is an inferior camera in my opinion. It just shows that the 7D isn&#8217;t either. I have both cameras and need both for different purposes. Using my 50mm f/1.4 for example would give me a much different image with the 7D than it does the 5DmkII. For me this test shows that I can use the 7D in low light with a tighter frame and a higher fps and not worry about the results. It&#8217;s not meant to discount the quality of the 5DmkII because that will still be my main portrait camera.</p>
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